Posts by Muddy Waters

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Unbaptised son maybe asked to be in assembly ... Suggestions please!

by 4thgen in

my husband and i are divorced.

i have custody of my tween son.

i left 3 years ago on principle.

Muddy Waters

Damn, I hate what this cult does to kids!!

You mentioned you had custody. Where I live, there are legally differing kinds of child custody -- full custody, sole custody, shared custody -- and they each have their distinctions and legalities.

Have you a lawyer? Can your find out what your legal rights are in this regard? Can your son be helped to be "neutral" until he is of legal age?

Also, do you know what the assembly part might be about or what is the point of his part? If it has anything to do with living in a "divided household", that could be very defaming to your character, to which you could strenuously object and threaten legal action....

I feel for you in this situation, not easy. No easy answers.

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Couldn't take it anymore.

by Darkknight757 in

so i decided yesterday to give my wife's full disclosure.

not sure it was the best decision considering she holds very firmly to the resurrection hope so we can see our babies again.. anyways she is agreeable to begin a study to find a better truth.

where is a good place to go to get some good reliable biblical info on the web that we can consider together?.

Muddy Waters

If you just want to read the Bible and have FUN reading it, I suggest looking into "The Message". Very colloquial but I understand it is a translation.

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The Stupidity of the "Preaching Work" ...

by Muddy Waters in

this came up in another thread and i wondered if any one else thought this way while they were still in..... - that it is actually better not to preach as people who don't hear "the truth" are said to be given a resurrection rather than the poor saps who refused a paltry magazine and now merit everlasting destruction..

Muddy Waters

This came up in another thread and I wondered if any one else thought this way while they were still in....

- that it is actually BETTER NOT TO PREACH as people who don't hear "the truth" are said to be given a resurrection rather than the poor saps who refused a paltry magazine and now merit everlasting destruction.

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Invisible Rulership - one of the dumbest things I ever believed in

by Black Man in

jw
friends

having now been out of the cult for a few years, it really shocks me about some of the nonsense i used to believe in.

like for instance, christ ruling in the midst of his enemies, but doing so invisibly.. let's let that one sink in for a minute.

you've supposedly got a king who is ruling for a kingdom, but it is an invisible rule.

Muddy Waters

Ah, interesting pics, thank you, Divergent!

Had to laugh at you giving up on the impossible "ministry"! Good for you!

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3 words to describe.....

by punkofnice in

..your experience with the watchtower corporation:.

i'll start...... bully boy elders.

Muddy Waters

Wait on Jehovah ..... (and wait and wait and wait!!)

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chew you up,

spit you out.

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A locust plague...

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expressions from frogs...

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The Great Harlot...

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Advertise the Kingdom

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Women in subjection....

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Listen, Obey [and be] Blessed

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Jehovah dot org

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3 words to describe.....

by punkofnice in

..your experience with the watchtower corporation:.

i'll start...... bully boy elders.

Muddy Waters

Exert yourself vigorously (to get out!!)

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3 words to describe.....

by punkofnice in

..your experience with the watchtower corporation:.

i'll start...... bully boy elders.

Muddy Waters

hook, line, sinker.... :(

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Invisible Rulership - one of the dumbest things I ever believed in

by Black Man in

jw
friends

having now been out of the cult for a few years, it really shocks me about some of the nonsense i used to believe in.

like for instance, christ ruling in the midst of his enemies, but doing so invisibly.. let's let that one sink in for a minute.

you've supposedly got a king who is ruling for a kingdom, but it is an invisible rule.

Muddy Waters

To get back to topic.... Yes, the invisible rulership thing is such a doozy.

Not to mention the "spiritual paradise" .... Meaning more invisibility.

And we have Jesus, always shown with grey hair despite being perfect & not aging as the rest of his imperfect followers. Anyway. Jesus, with his grey hair (and beard) ruling invisibly over us and granting us a spiritual paradise by means of a publishing house ... I mean, the one and only true religion on earth today, governed by his very own specially anointed brothers, who get to instantly receive perfect and everlasting (and immortal!!) life in heaven to be co-rulers over the rest of us slogs as we strive for 1,000 years to become perfect and deal with a massive cleanup job on the earth, and then face more judgement and tests, when Jesus lovingly releases Satan from his bondage so we can be tested and tempted by him one last (?) time ....

Yes, God certainly loves us so much.

Geez. I went off topic again.

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Invisible Rulership - one of the dumbest things I ever believed in

by Black Man in

jw
friends

having now been out of the cult for a few years, it really shocks me about some of the nonsense i used to believe in.

like for instance, christ ruling in the midst of his enemies, but doing so invisibly.. let's let that one sink in for a minute.

you've supposedly got a king who is ruling for a kingdom, but it is an invisible rule.

Muddy Waters

Yes, so very strange. Michael the archangel standing and then standing up. Ugh. And it was all sooooo significant!

All their stupid inane unsupportable teachings. How did we ever come to believe in it so fervently? Ugh.

I had a very wise friend tell me that the religion must have given me something I needed.... And perhaps that is true, but they extracted a very large price.

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Other inanities:

- that it is really better NOT to preach as people who don't hear "the truth" are said to be given a resurrection rather than the poor saps who refused a paltry magazine and now merit everlasting destruction.

Just ugh.

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JW Broadcasting—November 2015

by wifibandit in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i09wzqof4zi.

ha!

that is supposed to make people go back?!

Muddy Waters

Their terminology is very weird and unsettling: they use the word "reactivate" about those who are inactive, and near the end of the video, Sanderson says how wonderful it will be for those ones to become "re-activated" ....

Their coverage of the Phillipines hurricane disaster, sorry, I mean their coverage of themselves looking for a positive spin on the Phillipines hurricane disaster, was shockingly discompassionate toward those people who had lost everything. I couldn't believe how much time they spent and how much they spoke about THEMSELVES and the trial they had putting all their coverage together and trying to keep a positive theme.

You could see some of the brothers and sisters and even those poor children looking so shell shocked and trying to smile and put on a brave face to the heartless & inhumane camera operators.